For The Love Of Gays

It has come to my attention within probably the last year, the seriousness of the enmity that exists between the Church and the homosexual community – and not just the community, but the lives of individual homosexual people. The relationship between these two groups is at this point in history really quite disastrous.

I’ll illustrate this with a story. After church one night a few months ago, a large group (about 20 or 30) of my church friends and I went to a local restaurant for our weekly post-church dinner. We hadn’t been to this particular restaurant before, and we were all having an interesting time noticing that things weren’t running quite right. Continue reading

If something without meaning (God) is capable of creating things with meaning, then that which humanity does will have meaning, by the same principle. There is no objective meaning to our lives, true: but as meaning can come from non-meaning, we’re capable of creating our own. Yes, once we’re dead, it won’t matter: that makes life more precious.

Humans can create tractors, and those tractos will have purposes unto us. The tractor will perform a function and that means the tractor has some purpose in itself. But that doesn’t mean WE have a purpose. The tractor doesn’t give US a purpose. It is unidirectional impartation of purpose. Only something that has created us can give us a purpose. Just like God creates us and gives us purpose, but our existence doesn’t give God’s existence a purpose. That would be nonsensical.

And we don’t need to have a purpose to be able to give a tractor a purpose, because the tractor will simply serve a purpose to ourselves, and then the line will stop. The tractor doesn’t have any ultimate purpose beyond its service to us. If the tractor wasn’t created by anyone, it would be purposeless.

See, meaning isn’t derived from meaning. One thing doesn’t need to have meaning, strictly speaking, in order to be able to give another thing a meaning. We see that in the case of the tractor. Meaning is derived from creation, intent, purpose, authority. God has the authority to give us meaning and that’s the only way we can have any ultimate, genuine meaning.

And yes, if there is no God, once we’re dead, it won’t matter. That’s precisely it. Life is absolutely meaningless because of this fact, and there’s nothing you can say or do to ultimately make it any more meaningful. Everything you do in life will ultimately be for nothing, because it will all pass away. All of your aspirations to make a difference in the world amount to nothing, because the world and everybody in it will pass away, and everything will be forgotten. The universe doesn’t care what you do.

The scarcity of life doesn’t make life more precious any more than the scarcity of cystic fibrosis makes it something worth holding onto. In your worldview there is no God; your life is worth nothing. And a life that is worth nothing will be worth nothing no matter how fleeting its pointless existence is. I hope your life is fantastic, because if your life, like those of so many, is full of poverty, pain, and heartache, you have nothing to look forward to.

If it takes Creation, then that which a person does will subsequently have meaning. The question is, though, does God in Himself have meaning? And how?

Don’t understand the first sentence.

Obviously God doesn’t have a meaning in the same sense that we do – there is nobody above him to give him a meaning or purpose. Does that make God insignificant? No. On the contrary, the very reason that God doesn’t have a ‘meaning’ is because he is sovereign over everything, and it would require something more authoritative than himself to have a meaning.

Does God need to have a meaning in himself in order for him to be able to give us a meaning? No. He simply needs to be all powerful, which he is. God gives us meaning because he is the one who created us, and from our point of view, he is of ultimate value to us. God in himself is entirely self-sufficient. Any purpose he has is one that he gave to himself.

If God doesn’t exist and give us meaning, then our lives are for absolutely no reason. And if in our lifetime we deceive ourselves into believing we have a purpose, once we’re dead, none of it will matter.

Can humans give meaning to their own lives? And if not, how can God ultimately give meaning: is he too meaningless?

If the universe doesn’t actually have any meaning or purpose, then any meaning that a human gives to himself is no more than a fantasy; it has no truth in it and has no consequence once he dies. Utterly futile.

If God created the universe for some eternal purpose, and he included us humans in that purpose, and every individual has a hope and a destiny that will last for an eternity, then yes, God can certainly give us ultimate meaning. He is the creator of the universe. He has all authority over all things. He is the one who decides what the meaning of everything is.

Surviving in a Meaningless Universe

The naturalistic explanation for humanity’s craving for meaning in life is routinely brought down to this evolutionary narrative: those humans that felt that life was meaningful survived, and those who didn’t died out.

But this proposition necessitates a truly noteworthy consequence: we live in a universe in which the perception of meaning is conducive to survival.

I am prepared to accept that the reason we today all have a desire for meaning in life is that intelligent lifeforms required meaning in order to motivate their survival. But that doesn’t really solve the problem. Yes, nature selected the perception of meaning among our species, but how did nature produce it? How did the first human manage to concoct a desire for meaning before reproducing it in their offspring?

Where, I ask, did the very concept of ‘meaning’ come from? Which combination of atoms was it that made it possible?

How did a meaningless universe produce intelligent lifeforms that so strongly crave meaning?

Steve Turner – Humanist Creed

Who are we? What is our creed?

We believe in Marx, Freud and Darwin.

We believe everything is okay as long as you don’t hurt anyone, to the best of your definition of hurt, and the best of your definition of knowledge.

We believe in sex before, during and after marriage.

We believe in the therapy of sin.

We believe that adultery is fun.

We believe that sodomy is okay.

We believe that taboos are taboo.

We believe that everything is getting better despite evidence to the contrary. The evidence must be investigated and you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there’s something in horoscopes, UFOs and bent spoons.

Jesus was a good man just like Buddha, Mohammed and ourselves.

He was a good moral teacher although we think some of his good morals were basically bad.

We believe that all religions are basically the same, at least  the ones that we read were. They all believe in love and goodness. They only differ on matters of creation, sin, Heaven, Hell, God, and salvation.

We believe that after death comes the nothing because when you ask the dead what happens they say nothing.

If death is not the end and the dead have lied then it’s compulsory Heaven for all, excepting perhaps Hitler, Stalin and Genghis Khan.

We believe in Masters and Johnson; what’s selected is average, what’s average is normal, what’s normal is good.

We believe in total disarmament, because we believe there are direct links between warfare and bloodshed. Americans should beat their guns into tractors and the Russians will be sure to follow.

We believe that man is essentially good; it’s only his behaviour that lets him down. This is the fault of society, society is the fault of conditions, and conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that is right for him and reality will adapt accordingly. The universe will readjust, history will alter.

We believe that there is no absolute truth, except the truth that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in the rejection of creeds and the flowering of individual thought.


If chance be the father of all flesh, disaster is his rainbow in the sky.

And when you hear “state of emergency,” “sniper kills ten,” “youths go looting,” “troops on rampage,” “bomb blasts school,”

It is but the sound of Man worshiping his maker.